My main concerns are maintenance, longevity, baggers/mulching. By the way, Home Depot is not going to carry Ariens mowers. I think Im leaning towards the Gravley/Ariens product. I hate to get rid of it since it runs flawless. There doesnt appear to be much difference between the two The Pro has slightly bigger transmission, 1 bigger rear tires and Kohler Confidant EFI Closed Loop EZT-740 engine with 12cc Hydro-Gear ZT 3400 transmission with charge pumps. 2. 48-52 Heavy-Duty Fabricated Deck 5-7 Acres, 48-52 Heavy-Duty Stand-On Fabricated Deck, You can find a lot more information on the 48-52 inch ZTRs here: 2022 The Sixteen Best 48-52 Inch Zero Turn Mowers, 54-62 inch Fabricated Deck Up To 3-7 Acres, 54-62 inch Heavy-Duty Fabricated Deck Up To 10 acres or more, Ariens ZENITH 60 Kawasaki Model 991158 Kawasaki FX730V engine 24 hp/726cc Find Your Local Dealer: Ariens Dealer Locator, You can find a lot more information on the 54-72 inch ZTRs here: 2022 The Sixteen Best 54-72 Inch Residential Zero Turn Mowers. Mow heights 3.8cm to 11.4cm. Father in law says he believes i could take a 60 inch back there with no problem and just lift the deck to avoid any small stumps etc that was left over from the guy clearing. I weigh 200, and the mowers are 500 and 575 lbs, putting us well under the 900 lb rating of the EZT. Nz is slowly importing a few US mowers. One last question, my dealer also carries the ExMark line, in addition to the Toro and Ariens I mentioned above. Thanks again. Of course, durability is important. After the first cut, he had words for it. Considering the lack of step and handrail, would the Boulevard still be your first choice for me? The Model R is very easy to work on. 48 in deck has a 22hp Kawasaki engine/ 24hp Kawasaki for the 54 in model. The Briggs engine in the mower will last for your yard. The track widths (side to side wheel spacing) seems similar. I am looking at the Deere Z335E and Z375R. Hi Mike, The Ariens APEX and Gravely ZT HD are the same mower (just different paint) so if you have a Gravely dealer you may get a better price than the Ariens. I began to lean towards a local Toro dealer and the MX 5075 but hes telling me carb compliance in California is preventing that model. Its pretty common to go through a belt a year with the with MTD 42 and 46-inch decks made before 2015. This entry was posted in toro and tagged first, impressions, mower, titan, toro, turn, zero. The Boulevard is one of the best-built residential mowers on the market. I like the optional front flex forks for rough lawns. I believe youre right though on the 50 in for both. In this case, though the Kawasaki is a residential engine. It also guarantees a constant oil cleaning process. Bagger, tow behind, sweeper, or blower. It has the same trannys as the Cub Cadet XT2 but like the ZT-HD/APEX it has the optional powered bagger. In general, stamped decks cut better fabricated decks are tougher and handle more abuse. (Some other retailers want you go find the solution yourself or they want to send it out to some far away repair center. This will be handy for my open / flat areas I have a feeling you will have to get into the 800-900 lbs, 50-60 inch ZTRs to get one that will work. I plan to go look at the other 2 brands but have no clue if they are even in that range (scag, exmark). IronForged Deck 24.5 HP Commercial V-Twin Gas Dual Hydrostatic Zero-Turn Riding Mower, Toro 60 in. How fast can this machine actually mow, your estimation? Hi Craig, Thanks for the complete explanation it helps a lot! My overall goals were to have a reliable mower that could achieve a good cut and ultimately reduce my time spent mowing. They are both air-cooled engines so they dont have a water jacket to quiet the internal noises as a car engine does. Im spending days with my edger to get under the fences and around trees. In in the market for a zero turn and im not sure which one to go with. I hope you find a good dealer to work with and enjoy the mower you decide on. Not because of serviceability but most of the other brands mow a lot better. (see it here at the Home Depot) It will have the weight to give you great traction along the drainage ditch. Has a very nice seat. So Home Depot or Tractor supply might be a viable alternative. Expect it to last at a minimum twice as long as a Kaw FR. I wanted to have beefier Transaxles. I can buy a 2019 for 6K out the door ? I want a very good mulching zero-turn, preferably fabricated deck in the 42 to 46 range to fit through my storage doors. Most ZTRs dont have enough traction to go up that hill. None of those manufacturers will extend your ZTRs warranty in case your mower breaks using their leaf vac. You have to go up to the Toro Timecutter HD, Cub Cadet ZT2, and Ariens IKON XL to get the larger 2800 trans. Other than engine choices there is no difference between the 2018 model or the 2020 versions (including the 2020 Apex) I have no problems recommending the Gravely especially if you can save a few bucks buying last years model. I would like your thoughts on my situation if you will, I live in rural eastern NC where the soil tends to have a lot of clay and its necessary to have drainage ditches for storm runoff. Ariens Ikon X 52 is my mower than! 5. The 52 Vanguard is $4800 at SLE, but it only gives you 4 more deck.. It is fairly rough ground and has two moderately steep areas. You didnt say how much you are mowing but for example, 10 acres 25 times a year is only 60-75 hours a year. I really did love the Hustler Raptor Limited, but its around $4200. My John Deere riding mower had issues with grass building up under the deck, but its 2004 model. Email. 1. For more information on the Toro TITAN MAX and the limited HAVOC edition, please visit Toro's website. Its the latest design. Also, like the Ariens Facebook page. Arent the Toro engines made in China? Ive driven the mower and I like it a lot. ), The first contractor I hired used some kind of walk behind mower with a 36 cutting deck, and he mostly rode on a sulky while mowing the hill side to side. The ZT 3400 is the industry standard commercial tranny and youll find it on most commercial ZTRs in the $8000-$14,000 price range. ), since Im hoping to do a bunch of that myself. Great website and resource. Kawasaki slowly increased the price but because of the brand acceptance the owners kept buying them. I meant the Z355E 48, not 335. I am narrowing down my decision and researched Exmark but I am not that familiar with Walker ZTRs. Hi Paul, really enjoyed reading the article and comments I feel so much more informed now. Hi Tawanda, A good 42-inch zero-turn is a good size for your yard. And with 2 larger diameter tires, it may have a higher center of gravity that I may not care for. I say all that to ask your thoughts on the Toro MyRide and whether its worth the money? The Tractor itself is good but they put a cheap Briggs Intek motor in it. Its the best choice in your price range. I also have balance challenges and some minor fine motor control issues (mild multiple sclerosis). The dealers near me have cub cadet and toro. While the ZT2 would last much longer, my boss decided to go with the Jonsered tractor and its Costco guarantee even though Costco does not guarantee any product past the manufacturers warranty. Both have an excellent reputation. If there is a grinding noise or when you spin the blade it does not feel perfectly smooth replace that spindle. I am very new into this arena and have always cut with a walk behind. I wish the Ariens had a suspension seat, but I cant find one. The MX6050 has ZT 2800 and the TimeCutter HD ZT-3100. Thank you very much, I appreciate your input. The only maintenance is sharpening or changing the blade once a year. Red or Yellow. If you only have 10-degree slopes and you are not planning on pulling a lot of heavier loads with the ZTR then Id stay with the Ariens IKON XD or the Gravely ZT X. The Toros select speed control is also the best for pulling loads without worrying about your transmissions. When not in use, should the deck be kept at a specific height (all the way up or down)? $10.78. A little more than half of it i would consider wooded. Hi Paul, This was my original choice before researching because well it was the only brand I knew. Since you will buy this from a dealer ask a mechanic to show you how to level the deck. The best mower in that price range for ride, cut quality, cutting speed and long life components including the drive belts is the Exmark Lazer Z X-Series. Never use one on a slope greater than 10 degrees. Hi Joe, that would be the Ariens IKON XD 52. I prefer a mower where the operator (not the whole mower) has a suspension seat. The FasTrac is more in line with the mowers we are discussing here though. But the Toro TimeCutter HD with MyRIDE 48 in. Hes also fairly rough on equipment, (He killed an Exmark Lazer Z in 10 years) so the Ariens Apex/Gravely can put up with his abuse. The cheap ones ($20 or more now) dont have vents so it takes forever to fill the tank on your lawn tractor. Think you figured that out. But Ariens, Husqvarna (254) are coming into view. It one of the best riding ZTRs on the market. standard. There are over 400 different Zero-Turn Mowers available for your residential lawn. We are finally in the position to invest in a new mower and we are considering the 2020 Husqvarna Power Zero Turn Mowers Commercial M-ZT61 Kawasaki (967 17 70-08), $7,000. Seems like you get a overall better mower on the Cub than the Toro with the better transmission and extra features like the foot height adjustment, hour meter, headlights, etc. This is going to get priceysoon! They were also the first to use OHV across the entire line so they were more fuel-efficient and quieter. 3400 pumps, 23 tires, 7 gauge deck, 10mph, B&S Vanguard for $4200? I own a 48 Bad boy MZ 2011 now Looking to upgrade with suspension. Ariens Edge 42 For a rugged mower for two acres, I like the Ariens IKON XL and Ariens APEX at the Home Depot. It looked fairly safe and stable to mow this way. It is a pretty smooth lawn, with about 8 trees and a lot of bed lines to cut along in the front half of the lawn. That his asking price. What would you suggest to best meet my needs? Also, Toro mowers have larger caster for cubs with sealed ball bearings compared to John Deere mowers. Oh, Im 62, in reasonable shape, dont mind the exercisein fact, kinda keeps the joints lubricated (smile). I have about 1 acre of mowable grass. Both are good dependable mowers. And I have a good mower shop just a mile away that is not a dealer, they will service whatever you bring. You can get the HD without MyRide and be close to your budget: Toro TimeCutter HD 48 in. I prefer the Walker. Decent engine, decent transmissions and built well. Hi Dave, All five brands are a great choice in that price range. I also use the mulcher in the fall for leaves. Hello Paul! And because Ive had good luck with my Deere/Kohler and I feel less enthusiastic about the Briggs, Im leaning towards the Cub. The Edge also has a pivoting front axle. Should I be considering someone/something else? The kids who stayed in the business got used to the Kaws so they continued to put them on their next mower and so on. Z700 SERIES. Hi Adam, The Patriot is going to give you a suspension seat and a commercial-grade engine. In your case I suggest the Gravely. My Exmark Quest 42 which is the same as the MX4250 has the ZT-2200. You would have to go up to the Bad Boy ZT Elite to get the same heavy-duty machine as the Ariens/Gravely. Its the same mower as the IKON XD with the serviceable ZT2800 trannys. Toro and Cub Cadet both offer really good parts availability and local service. I have a .5 acre yard planted with centipede grass with a drainage ditch along the road frontage. The Toros cut is fantastic but They are nice because once they are installed you dont need to mess with them for weeks at a time. Disappointed that the Toro no longer is available with the Kawasaki engine. Fab Deck 24 HP Kawasaki FR V-Twin with Roll Over Protection and Front Wheel Suspension Available assembled and delivered through, Ariens APEX 60 Kawasaki Model 991163 60 Cutting Width Kawasaki FR730 engine 24 hp/726cc. Its very comfortable to useand built well. Toro made a bad looking mower for this special edition release! I have two in mind. Or Bagger for 42 inch Fab Deck. I think a 42 is the right size for me but this late in the season nobody has one in stock right now and can get he 50 for lesser price. Your Walker dealer will be glad to come out and demo it with you. I have some bare dirt sections where a lot of dust flies so I think the beefier air filter (and engine) on the Vanguard will be worth it. Its being replaced with the Z560 https://www.husqvarna.com/us/products/zero-turn-mowers/z560/967929901/. My yard is just over an acre, 95% flat with a small ditch in the front. The HD models have a significantly heavier frame and transmissions. Triple layer spindle support. i just need help deciding which mower to go for, i run my own gardening business of three years and its now time to upgrade to a ZT, I do a few commercial jobs which are about 1 acre in size and alot of smaller residencial properties with small gate access around 1/2 acre. Any suggestions? Hi Joe, Im not a big fan of the 300 series Deere ZTRs. So now I am wanting to look for a machine that is between 42-60 inches, floating deck, deck lifts up for easy blade replacement/clean and performs well for lawn cutting/orchard. Paul, I bought a Cub Cadet Ultima 54 inch deck ZTR. These have the better tranny with the ZT-3100 but I feel like I read on your site that for towing a leaf vac maybe even more would be required? HD is about 200 cheaper right now. Paul, our 1 acre lot in PA has some trees, and is a bit bumpy in spots. Are you familiar with or have you had experience with this Toro model? But in comparison to other 54" zero turn mowers on the market, this is a steal of a deal. At Encore, we build high quality mowers with heavy duty components, complimented by details that make routine maintenance much easier on machines that are priced right. I am strongly leaning toward a DR Leaf and Lawn vac for fall and spring clean up and am concerned with weight of that being pulled by the mower. 10 years ago they were one of the best ZTRs on the market but today almost everyone else has passed them up for cut quality, service, etc. (same mower ones red the other is orange) These mowers have commercial duty ZT3100 transmissions and Kawasaki engines like the Bad Boy Elite and the Scag Liberty Z. This in comparison with the ZT1s EZT-2200. But much of the remaining hillside (15 degree slope) ends at a tree line, so mowing straight up and down requires that I make turns on the hill. Since I can get the zt2 for only $300 more than the zt1, do I take my chances on it and hope the deck is good? The owners really like how it mulches with the Toro mulch kit installed. Out of the apex and mz61 which one would have the overall better quality and longevity and have the best cut quality. The flip=up mid-mount deck is unique and works well. Its really interesting how the Internet can get facts turned upside down. Love your site. Toro zero turn model Average Weight; TimeCutter 75734: 675 lbs: TimeCutter 75740: 645 lbs: TimeCutter 75750: 738 lbs: TimeCutter 75756: 836 lbs: TimeCutter SS5000: 588 lbs: Titan 75316: 819 lbs: Titan . I know the Pro Z might be a little much for a residential mower but Im willing to pay $1400 more for the upgraded mower, providing the Kohler Motor is reliable and the transmission with charge pumps will add longer life to transmissions. A lot of great reviews online / Pro landscapers rave about build/cut/speed Ariens XD (Which is best between Kohler or Kawasaki) I like this cause I heard these are the best engines for lawnmowers so Im sure they are reliable. Will look to get something off the website too to help you!! When the mower is out of service, should the deck be at a specific height, like all the way up or all the way down? Check out this video I mow a ditch that Ive never been able to mow with any other ZTR. Thats good to know. Its a nicety, not a necessity. Price-wise the Gravely is more but you get proportionately more. The Kawasaki I believe is the lower end residential mower engine and Kohler is the introduction lower end Commercial engine. Unless you have a dependable, local dealer, Id stay away from it. I appreciate your knowledge and your site as it is a wealth of information and probably the most extensive and encompassing site out there. I need something that will handle the cutting duties without leaving rows of grass clipping or mohawks. On the perimeter of our yard there is about a total of a half acre of wooded area which we do not cut. Keep it in a shed, out of the weather and you wont have to buy another mower, ever! DO not know enough about the hydraulic drive motors to know what is the best of the HD motors. It will easily last through your sons learning stage and go on to last you years. I know you really like the Toro units. Hi Mike, Your biggest problem is traction. Looking at either a cub cadet or a another Toro.we have a farm yard ,about 2 acres . 6. The Confidant Series has the same commercial quality as the old Command Pro engines. I own a JD LX280, which has been a great mower, but I have been looking at a ZTR for a couple years as an addition to the JD. Hi Jon, I have no preference. 26 HP Titan MAX IronForged Deck Commercial V-Twin Gas Dual Hydrostatic Zero Turn Riding Mower at Tractor Supply Co. Great Customer Service. They are rated for over 500 hours which for most people equals 2 hours a week for over 10 years. Follow Chip as he takes you through a detailed testing and performance analysis of Toro Titan 60\" and Bad Boy ZT Elite 60\".Product in the video: Toro TITAN MyRIDE (60\") 24.5HP Zero Turn MowerBuy it here: https://www.mainstreetmower.com/collections/lawn-mowers/products/toro-titan%C2%AE-myride-60-24-5hp-zero-turn-mower..Shop all models from the TORO TITAN series through our online store: https://www.mainstreetmower.com/collections/lawn-mowers/product-series_titanShop online from our extensive online product inventory: https://www.mainstreetmower.com/Show your love; follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MainStreetMower/Stay updated about our shop , through our Instagram handle: https://www.instagram.com/mainstreetmower_fl/ Please help! It is a mid-line ZTR in the Deere lineup and it will last you a long time. Your thoughts please. The Cub Cadet ZT1 42 inch or 50 inch also cut well and the fabricated deck on the 50 inch is very rugged. Hi Paul, great website! If I stay with a 50 Im trying to decide between the toro mx5000, the zt1 50, or the ikon x 52. The deck is a lot stronger than the stamped deck and will handle banging against tree roots, etc. Been insightful for sure. One dealer is steering me toward the MZ Magnum, but I am concerned about its non-serviceable transmission and also think its not for two acres of mowing. The rest of the time I doubt youll have more than 3-400 lbs in the cart and the heavy duty ZT2800 transmissions can handle that easily. Ive got about two acres of mostly flat lawn at my house. I need a ZTR that can perform well on slopes. Yes, there are many good ZTRs when you get up in the 6K price range. We also have a gorilla yard cart and would like some thing with a hitch pin to pull around firewood or brush etc. It will easily last you 10 years or more. Any recommendations on brand and a specific mower in that brand? These models also ride well but they dont mulch quite as well as the Toro or John Deere. 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